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Good News for the UK

Posted by jlwile on August 25, 2011

William Lane Craig (click for credit)

William Lane Craig is Research Professor of Philosophy at Talbot School of Theology. He has a formidable intellect, which is best on display during debates. In fact, noted atheist Sam Harris once described Craig as, “the one Christian apologist who has put the fear of God into many of my fellow atheists.” It’s no wonder that when William Lane Craig announced that he wanted to have a debate during his tour of the UK, most atheists ran for the hills.


Richard Dawkins, for example, was asked to debate Dr. Craig, and he refused. When asked why, his response was:

I have always said when invited to do debates that I will be happy to debate a bishop, a cardinal, a pope, an archbishop – indeed, I have done both, but that I don’t take on creationists and I don’t take on people whose only claim to fame is that they are professional debaters. They’ve got to have to have something more than that. I’m busy.

This answer, of course, shows that his only real reason for not debating Dr. Craig is that he knows he would get destroyed in such a debate.

First, we know that Dawkins has debated others who are not a bishop, a cardinal, a pope, or an archbishop. For example, he debated John Lennox, who has no church position. Dr. Lennox has several academic appointments, such as being Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford, but he is not a bishop, a cardinal, a pope, or an archbishop. Dawkins also debated Francis Collins. Once again, Dr. Collins is not a bishop, a cardinal, a pope, or an archbishop. He is Director of the National Institutes of Health.

Is Dr. Craig is a “creationist?” Is that why Dawkins won’t debate him? No. It’s true that Dr. Craig thinks that the entire universe was created by God, but so do Dr. Lennox and Dr. Collins, who Dawkins has debated. Dr. Craig is certainly not a young-earth creationist. In fact, he says that while he has no hard and fast position on the issue, he sees himself somewhere between a progressive creationist and a theistic evolutionist. So he is clearly not a creationist. In fact, he doesn’t even know exactly how to characterize himself on the issue.

Well, then. I guess that means Dr. Craig’s only claim to fame is that he is a professional debater. Once again, that’s quite false. Dr. Craig has a publication list that would be the envy of most academics. In fact, while he writes a lot of popular books, he continues to write in the peer-reviewed academic literature of his field. His claim to fame, then, is that he is an incredibly well-respected academic with many publications both in the literature of his field and for the general public.

When Dawkins decided to run away from William Lane Craig (using a fake excuse that has no basis in reality), another fairly well-known atheist (at least in UK circles) decided she would take his place. Polly Toynbee is a columnist for The Guardian and President of the British Humanist Association. She initially agreed to debate Dr. Craig, but has since backed out. She says:

I hadn’t realised the nature of Mr Lane Craig’s debating style, and having now looked at his previous performances, this is not my kind of forum.

Her claim that this is not her kind of forum rings hollow, since the Association for which she current serves as president says that one of its values is:

engaging in debate rationally, intelligently and with attention to evidence

I expect that she backed out because once she did some research on Craig’s arguments, she knew she had no chance in a debate against him.

Why do I bring all this up? Because it finally looks like there is a British atheist who is willing to take up the challenge. Stephen Law will debate William Lane Craig on the 17th of October at Westminster Hall. This is good news for the UK, because unlike both Dawkins and Toynbee, Dr. Law is an intellectual who is roughly on the same level as Craig. He is a senior lecturer in philosophy at Heythrop College, University of London and is the editor of the Royal Institute of Philosophy’s journal entitled Think. I read his book The Philosophy Gym: 25 Short Adventures in Thinking a few years ago, and while I disagreed with much of what he wrote, I readily admit that (unlike Dawkins and Toynbee) he is a deep thinker and has impeccable logic.

So as I said before, this is good news for the UK! Two hacks that Craig would have demolished in a debate have backed out, and a serious philosopher has entered the fray. I have no idea what his debating skills are, but if they are anything like his writing skills, I expect this to be a very interesting exchange. I do hope to find it on Youtube at some point, as Westminster Hall is a bit far from where I live!

Comments

9 Responses to “Good News for the UK”
  1. Jake says:

    This sounds cool.

    Wow, Dr. Craig’s list of publications just keeps going. And with all Dawkins’s ridiculous bombast, I find this recent craven display quite amusing (but sad, of course).

  2. Chris Shannon says:

    Here is a great video to go along with this great post!

    William Lane Craig, Richard Dawkins and the Empty Chair
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ldYmg0lpE

  3. Cornell says:

    Good blog Dr. Wile!!!

    We can also add that Dawkins debated journalist David Quinn, and also Theologian/Biophysicist Alister Mcgrath, in which Dawkins openly admitted to Mcgrath that he had different defition on what one would call “faith”.

    I was actually slightly impressed with Dawkins admitting that Mcgrath was possibly correct in pointing out how the Christian view the word “faith” was different than Dawkins interpretation. Although the old Dawkins returned not too much later.

    Dawkins also mustered up the courage to call out the dangerous and formidable philsopher Kirk Cameron….and…. I think I’ll stop there, I think we all get the point.

  4. jlwile says:

    Jake, I completely agree. Dawkins’s running and hiding from William Lane Craig is a start contrast to his typical bombast.

    Chris, that’s an excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

    Cornell, I never watched the debate between Dawkins and Mcgrath. Perhaps I should.

  5. keatris says:

    Stephen Law has been on a couple of programs of the Unbelievable? radio show, if any of you are interested in hearing him.

  6. jlwile says:

    Thanks, Keatris.

  7. Peter Byrom says:

    I’ve just produced a short movie on this issue, and I agree entirely! It’s a downright disappointment that “The Big Names” have chickened out, but what we’re left with is actually some high quality academics!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mioJYqRVDE

    Enjoy! :-)

  8. jlwile says:

    Thanks for the video, Peter. It certainly shows the hypocrisy of the British Humanist Association.

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